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Kenny Klimes
KeymasterOuch!
I have fished many trout streams and big rivers in my 50 years of fly fishing. I too, like to find that gem of a stream that I have hiked many miles (when I was younger) to find that special place to fish. Or fish that place where the trout are over 20 inches and I may see one or two other fly fishers.
For me solitude is great but as I get older I prefer to fish with a buddy or two so that we enjoy the fishing day together (I am an extreme extrovert). I enjoy watching or helping someone else catch a fish – that’s me. We are all different and all enjoy God’s beauty. I always say I have never fished in an ugly place. So as one of those “Suckers”, once in awhile, it is ok with me as long as we take in God’s glory – the beauty, the colors, the fellowship.
Oh yeah, the net looks interesting and would love to have another update as you get to use it a little more. Let us know!
Kenny Klimes
KeymasterJeffblev,
There are 1oo’s of thousands of trout streams in the United States and no one organization can put all of them together for us fly fishers. Troutroutes, that has only been out for just a few years, is trying. Of course they would start with the more famous streams and rivers and then work down to the rest. They are continually working everyday on finding trout streams. Our association with them, as a sponsor, is invaluable with their discount for our members.
With that said, Troutroutes is ALWAYS asking their members to provide information to them to make their app better. For example, we (FATC) are working with them to make trout streams, locations, access points, etc. in Missouri and Arkansas more accurate. If you have any streams that you have fished, small streams or large rivers, that you fished for trout and want TroutRoutes to put them in their app, get them to us and we will work with TroutRoutes to add them to there app. If you find locations that are NOT accurate in TroutRoutes, then let us or TroutRoutes know so they can make them accurate. This way if we (FATC) plan a trip to lesser known streams the information from the app will be accurate. As you may or may not know TroutRoutes briefing given at the Denver Fly Fishing Show in 2023 gave information on all of the ways, besides using TroutRoutes, that you can find the tiniest of trout streams in each state. Their job is trying to put all of this information in one location – a monumental task.
I have used TroutRoutes on several of my trips this year (Colorado, Wisconsin, etc.) and it has worked great – saved time in finding some awesome trout streams. If you have spots that you have fished for trout that are incorrect or non-existence, please contact us and we can pass them on to TroutRoutes to make their app better.
KK
Kenny Klimes
KeymasterHey Mike
just might be able to make the Sowbug Roundup 2024!!
Kenny
Kenny Klimes
KeymasterHey Wily9c
I agree with the Sensei. Many of our guys avoid the “small” flies but shouldn’t. BIG fish eat small flies! Don’t believe me go fish the San Juan River in New Mexico. So don’t be afraid to “experiment” with small flies. Take the time to fish them and perfect your technique fishing them. You will be rewarded!
K
Kenny Klimes
KeymasterThanks Mike!! One of our members, Terry Seaton, just fished Taneycomo and said the generators were off but had a nice flow. He said it was the best day ever for him on Taneycomo!! Had almost 30 chubby rainbows in 3 1/2 hours of fishing. ITS TIME!!!
I plan on keeping a close eye on the flows and rain. If you can time it with the generators off (so you can wade) this could be the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow!!
Kenny Klimes
KeymasterMike
that sounds awesome! I’m going to have to get down there to fish with you soon!! In Montana now fishing the Gallatin river, Madison and Yellowstone.
Kenny Klimes
KeymasterI’m sitting in the Denver airport headed to Bozeman!! Sorry, just had to say that.
Cheap never pays. Buy good tippet from a good company. Tippet should not go bad unless you’ve had it for five years and left it in the sun! Tippet rings – same. Buy cheap then the “nicks” will get ya.
Because you fish as much as you do I can’t see how you would have old tippet, especially when you should be using it on every trip. What tippet do you buy? Are your knots tied correctly and well (spit on them). Get good tippet rings and you shouldn’t lose them. If your breakage is at the ring – good knots, check your leader too (3x no less that 4x leader).long story short don’t lose that 23 inch Brown because you went cheap. Gotta catch my plane now – bye!!
April 3, 2023 at 7:13 pm in reply to: What’s the Low Hole In Your Bucket and What Are You Doing About It? #26843Kenny Klimes
KeymasterI feel that at times I’m patching holes in my bucket every day. Kind of like the three stooges when they are in the boat – they keep putting holes in the bottom thinking that the water will GO OUT one of them. To “patch up” my lowest hole I need to realize I can’t do it myself. I need Him. It’s an every day thing – not just on Sunday for one hour. If that’s all the time you spend “patching up” that lowest hole then the water will eventually empty!
Just saying…..
Kenny Klimes
KeymasterWow Stag, I never heard of anyone having a problem like this. But to answer your questions here are a few suggestions:
1. First, I’d find out how or why the tools got magnetized. So you can remove the problem
2. You purchase a degaussing tool to de-magnetize things, Probably run anywhere from $6 – $20
3. What I would try first is: take a magnet. It will have a north and south end that is magnetized. Take the side of the magnet and run it along your tool. Confusing? Yes! So, if you have a small magnet like the shape of a coin. One flat side of the coin magnet is the north pole and the other flat side of the coin magnet is the south pole. These sides are magnetized. Now, the edge of the coin is not magnetized OR has no magnetic qualities. Take that edge of the coin and run it up and down the side of your tool. In other words run the side of the magnet with no magnetic qualities up and down the tool. Think of it as the un-magnetic side of the magnet sucking the magnetism out of the tool. If that works I am a genius. if not, buy a degaussing tool.
Kenny Klimes
KeymasterJohn,
I am sort of an Eldridge geek. I have been to his four day retreat in the mountains of Colorado several years ago and have read many of his books. Beautiful Outlaw is one of my favorites by far. It is an easy read and a great read! It truly gives the sense of who Jesus was/is and His personality.
After I read it, I said to myself, “Hey, I would have really liked to hang with this guy!!”. Sometimes, we make Jesus out to be unreachable – you know with a halo over His head at all times – like some of the pictures in churches today. No, I don’t think so. He walked in the mud, sweated, cried, was tired – just like us. Again, I really think I could have hung with this guy back then. That’s why I hang with Him now!!
Kenny Klimes
KeymasterTo answer your question in a nut shell the answer is – keep the “sighter” out of the water while you ESN. Here’s some reasons why.
1. The sighter, if made of different material or is a thicker diameter than your tippet being used, will not drift correctly underwater (too thick of a diameter could slow the sink rate of the flies or slow the drift).
2. The sighter should always be out of the water so I would extend the tippet if going to fish in a deeper hole. In other words can’t be lazy – add more tippet and hold your sighter a little higher in the water.
3. Your tippet below the sighter should be the smallest you can get away with – one of our guys was shown how to do it with the tutelage of Jason Randall and caught a 21 inch brown on 7X tippet. It can be done!
4. Some of the latest techniques are using a paint contained in a Sharpie like pen to mark the tippet. So the entire leader is tippet with fluorescent paint used as the sighter
5. We just finished our advanced nymphing class – our next class will be ESN techniques. Watch for it
Kenny Klimes
KeymasterTo answer your question in a nut shell the answer is – keep the “sighter” out of the water while you ESN. Here’s some reasons why.
1. The sighter, if made of different material or is a thicker diameter than your tippet being used, will not drift correctly underwater (too thick of a diameter could slow the sink rate of the flies or slow the drift).
2. The sighter should always be out of the water so I would extend the tippet if going to fish in a deeper hole. In other words can’t be lazy – add more tippet and hold your sighter a little higher in the water.
3. Your tippet below the sighter should be the smallest you can get away with – one of our guys was shown how to do it with the tutelage of Jason Randall and caught a 21 inch brown on 7X tippet. It can be done!
4. Some of the latest techniques are using a paint contained in a Sharpie like pen to mark the tippet. So the entire leader is tippet with fluorescent paint used as the sighter
5. We just finished our advanced nymphing class – our next class will be ESN techniques. Watch for it
February 2, 2023 at 2:39 pm in reply to: What flies give you the most satisfaction when tying? #26469Kenny Klimes
KeymasterI like to tie the flies that I use and WORK! Some are small and some are more than 6 inches long (Musky flies). But when I haven’t tied a certain fly in awhile I always give myself three ties before I feel good about each fly. Keep a single edge razor blade on your tying desk and remove the material and start again if it isn’t “right”. I also will keep the old flies that are torn up, use the razor blade and use the hook again.
Kenny Klimes
Keymaster1. Washing your waders after a few trips is important to keep the “breathable” pores open and functioning properly.
2. I use a tub with Dawn soap. Swish waders up and down to clean. Not inside out. The dirt is on the outside.
3. once a year in the washing machine on gentle cycle with light amount detergent (oxyclean) is ok. Take out wet and then use ReVivex spray to re-enhance the water proof material. Then after spraying with ReVivex put in dryer on lowest setting just until the waders are dry (keep checking) do not get them hot.
4. then you’re ready to go!Kenny Klimes
KeymasterMark – SIR!!
The Sensei was unable to write to you He is in the Far East with family for Christmas so He asked me to write to you!!
First, I’ve had “hundreds” of laughs (at my expense) on our “story” when after lunch you told me you retired as MGen!! Hope your ears weren’t ringing.
Now, yes, we have fished this area (River of life farms). It has truly changed since the flood of a few years ago. Reports say it has not come back like it was once BUT I feel the trout have not left town altogether. We haven’t fished it since the flood. The number one fly back then was the “rubber-legged stonefly”. Easy to tie. Supposedly it is the only river with stoneflies in Missouri . I’m out of town now but back in town after the 27th. I can tie some for you since I did smack a General around all morning (my bad – ?).
Give me a call sometime in the next week and I’ll see what I can do. Besides that the normal flies for Missouri should be good but these trout were stocked last in the 60s and are very tough to catch – need to be on your game!!
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