Kenny Klimes

Bill,

I can answer this question a little easier than the other you posted. With an 8ft rod, 4 wt and from your previous write up you mentioned fishing small streams. I would highly recommend the Scientific Angler (SA) floating fly line called Creek Trout line. It is an awesome line for small streams. There is more weight upfront in the line that allows it to cast VERY well for short casts (20 – 40 feet) but I can easily get casts up to 60-70 feet effortlessly. For small streams I don’t think you will need sinking tip line.

Hope this helps,

Kenny

FATC Chairman

I have a tiny pond very close to my house and fish it when I’m sitting around at home doing nutin.  I have an old rod and reel lined up and just grab and go. I bring a few Woolybuggers and poppers and “practice” but I catch a lot of panfish and a few bass too.
Stag is spot on – when the dogwoods and redbuds bloom it is time!!!!

GREAT ADVICE even if it isn’t raining in St Louis you need to ALWAYS check the flows and water depth. Where do you check the flows and depth??? ON OUR WEBSITE under water conditions menu!! We even have explanation of what it should be and shouldn’t be to be able to fish. Fish Smart!!

Chilly

Here is a leader system from Jason Randall but there are many.

It uses Chameleon leader material and a tippet ring. Tie the leader material together with blood knots. This is for “Stream” fishing.

32″ of 20lb Chameleon

26″ of 15lb Chameleon

22″ of 10lb Chameleon

16″ of 8lb Chameleon

12″ of 5lb Chameleon

For longer leader add 12″ of 4lb Chameleon (but I do not add this part)

tie on tippet ring then add your 4-5 feet of 5x or 6x tippet to the ring

Here is leader system for River fishing:

32″ of 25lb Chameleon

26″ of 20lb Chameleon

22″ of 15lb Chameleon

16″ of 10lb Chameleon

12″ of 8lb Chameleon

For longer leader you can add 12″ of 5lb Chameleon (I do not) then add tippet ring. To tippet ring add2-3 feet of 4x – 5x

Give it a try. If the leader seems to long to turn over then take some leader material off.

For ESN leaders go to Devin Olsen’s website. There are “sort of” three types of ESN leaders. heavy – medium – light weight. If you have never done ESN before I recommend start with a “heavier” leader then work towards a light weight leader.

Here is JUST AN EXAMPLE of a heavier ESN leader: 12 feet of 15# or 20# Maxima Chameleon, 3 feet of 12# Amnesia or Chameleon, 18″ of 0.012 colored sighter material, tippet ring, then 6′-10′ of 4x or 5x tippet. I use 6x tippet the majority of the time. With this leader we use ESN fly line which is very thin fly line connected with a nail knot to the butt end of the leader.

K

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Only through September 4th

kenny

Bob,

Great song and message! I hope we have guys that realize that life IS hard and that we need strong men in our lives to hold us up when we fall. And we have guys that will be willing to lift others up too.

Hope to see many of you at the FATC book study!

Kenny

• This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by Kenny Klimes.

Ed,

Thanks for info. They’ve arrived here too. Not sure what the rivers are like though. I truly need to come down there and fish with you!!

Kenny

Rob,

Just checked our closest guys to you are Jason Pair and Ryan Pennington.

K