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alharp
ParticipantWhat a great New Years inspirational message! Like many, I suspect, Christmas and the end of a year got really busy for me. I was guilty of too much rushing around as you mentioned. I benefitted, however, from a couple of church services that helped me focus on the “reason for the season.” But as you also alluded to, an acceptance of God is a very private thing. I appreciate your thoughts and the prayer you provided. I wish you and all our friends peace in this new year.
Al Harperalharp
ParticipantI enjoyed reading this and it inspired some thoughts too. I hunted with dogs down south in the 1960s and 70s. We hunted quail, rabbits and deer. There are only about 5 states that allow deer hunting with dogs and until recently, thanks to I-phones and Go Pros, one had to be there in person to understand how exciting it is to anticipate game being chased past your stand or the temporary hunting spot you’ve established. The “music” that a pack of dogs makes when in full pursuit is unforgettable. I never considered that I might be “treed” until I read this. I’m now doing some soul searching about what I might be fleeing in my life. Thanks, John, for this new perspective on what were some of the most memorable outdoors experiences I ever had.
Al Harperalharp
ParticipantGreat info. Knowing the water level and flow rate (CFS) is helpful for safety, of course, but also for knowing how often one might have to drag a watercraft over shallow spots; for helping determine how long a float might take; and with a little record keeping you might be able to detect a correlation between flow and how the fish were biting too.
Al Harperalharp
ParticipantThanks for sharing a great story and an analogy with which I can certainly identify. I seem to venture out on “slippery slopes” about every other month and I’ve noticed it happens more often when I’m going it alone like you were on that mountain.
Al Harperalharp
ParticipantAppreciate these Insightful thoughts to ponder. I want to use the new year as a time to refocus (re-aim) on goals that seem to have drifted away in a barrage of cognitive dissonance. Reading or re-reading some inspirational books is helping as is a discipleship program recently undertaken.
Al Harperalharp
ParticipantVery interesting. Heard a sermon this morning on a similar theme. Bottom line: very hard doing a faith journey by yourself. Another part of the message was “when you think you are helping someone else, you often end up helping yourself more.”
Al Harperalharp
ParticipantThe Meramec River was the inadvertent recipient of fish washed out of the Maramec Trout Park after flooding there 11/5/24. A recent newspaper report from Licking indicates that may have also happened with 950,000 fish that had been in the Montauk hatchery when it flooded. If large numbers of trout made their way to the Current, fishing in that river could be dramatically better than it has been in a long time.
Al Harperalharp
ParticipantThanks for more words of wisdom, John. I really enjoyed studying “Beautiful Outlaw” and hearing other mens’ opinions about the book too. You are to be commended for completing the final night of the study after a serious health scare. We’re elated about your recovery and thankful for your spiritual leadership.
Al Harperalharp
ParticipantThanks, John. You’ve given us much to think about and enjoy not only in the book studies and here in the forum but in small desciple groups as well. Participating in the spiritual aspects of FATC has been really satisfying to me.
Al Harper
alharp
ParticipantI was enjoying a few minutes of quiet time this Sunday morning before going to church and really enjoyed your thoughts and comments. The quotations are particularly inspiring because sometimes it can be hard to maintain enthusiasm and get motivated to do things that end up being very satisfying. I hope your comments helps some of us “start our engines” and inspires us to go out and grab life’s experiences as long as we can.
Thanks, and God bless ya.
Al Harperalharp
ParticipantJohn:
I’m sorry to hear of your losing friends like Terry and Bruce. They sound like guys that were great to share many years with. It sounds like you are taking the most constructive steps possible by writing about how you feel. I know there are many who consider you not only a friend but a mentor as well and hopefully that is some consolation to you during a difficult time. It seems like reaching out to others is the right thing to do. I hope it helps and you feel some relief over time.Al Harper
alharp
ParticipantI read with interest the thoughts of Kenny and John. If I were honest I’d probably have to admit I vacillate between trying to be a “nice guy” and being a bold warrior for Christianity as I understand it. A couple of authors I’m reading lately explain that:
1) “… we are intensely attached to being perceived in a positive light, even by people we don’t know and will never meet … and even by people we don’t like.” *
2) “Christianity not only makes us aspire to be better, but it also shows us how to be better.” **I’m thankful for resources like the books from which these quotes were taken and the comments of people who are seeking answers through the Bible and God’s word. They help me push away the anxiety, hopelessness and frustration that sometimes starts to build up due to lies that are so prevalent in our culture today. I also try to find opportunities to persuade or uplift others. Another thing that helps is getting out in nature and trying to catch a fish.
Al Harper* <i>The Biggest Lie in the History of Christianity</i> by Matthew Kelly
** <i>What’s So Great About Christianity</i> by Dinesh D’Souza
alharp
ParticipantThis is Al Harper. I am a FATC member who attended the book studies John mentioned and now participate in an ongoing discipleship study as well. As many of our members know, John has an unusual amount of wisdom and a spiritual drive that is infectious. I think many men want to delve deeper into Christianity but aren’t sure how to begin. We also live with a hostility to religion that is instilled by institutions like schools and the entertainment industry. I’ve benefited greatly from the chance to discuss issues that really matter and hear the ideas and thoughts of my peers in a comfortable and informal format. I hope others can too.
alharp
ParticipantI think your question: “why men shy away from sharing their faith” is an important one.
One possible factor involved might be that some are grappling with just what constitutes their faith. They (I’ll say “we”) might be considered what are sometimes called “seekers”. Despite lifelong participation in organized religion — and active thought, contemplation, and reading — our spiritual beliefs lack the clarity that more confident or experienced Christians enjoy.
I, for one, appreciate the chance to associate with men who have a more mature or well developed set of spiritual beliefs and have benefitted greatly from authors like Rick Warren as you mentioned and a couple of encounters with Legacy Builders events as well. Also, I feel time of life is perhaps part of the equation, although that might also fall in the category of “Spiritual laziness, too busy to share my faith” as you offered in your list. I’m so thankful for the luxury of a little extra time on my hands to try to solidify and understand my relationship with Christ (and pursue a passion like fishing as well). Hopefully, if God is willing, more substantive conversations on these topics will happen more often.
Al Harper
alharp
ParticipantInteresting thoughts and issues you’ve raised here. Thanks. I can certainly relate to having “perceptions … formed while I was in elementary school” even though I have been seeking to gain clarity and develop a more mature understanding of Christianity in my adulthood. I found the Halftime book study you led and the Operation Timothy workbook and other resources you’ve suggested to be very helpful in my journey and appreciate being part of a brotherhood that offers these resources to us.
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