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February 25, 2018 at 12:41 pm #4569Tim McCoyParticipant
Mayer’ Leech the next fly we are tying in our Wednesday session. Well, I don’t have any pine squirrel or black ostrich herl. I do have olive rabbit zonker strips and olive ostrich herl. Do you think rabbit zonker will work? It will work for tying purposes, but what about on the water. Do think changing the color of ostrich with a magic marker will work?
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February 25, 2018 at 1:11 pm #4570MOfishMOParticipant
Tim, I have micro pine squirrel and large ostrich plumes in black,brown and olive to share with you. I was at feather-craft asking the same question about the difference between the micro rabbit strips and micro pine squirrel strips for the Mayer’s Mini leech pattern. They said you can use rabbit over squirrel but, will change the fly on how it flutters in the water. We compared the 2 materials… rabbit is much softer and when wet per f-craft will make the pattern sink and, with the pine squirrel fur been stiffer will hold the fly up in the water to give the flutter effect of a leech. I hope that is helpful to you.
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February 25, 2018 at 4:03 pm #4571bkbying89Participant
Is there a difference between Mini vs Zonked rabbit squirrel strips. I ordered small strips 3/32″ wide, so less than a 1/8 inch wide and I have some zonked strips I used on some Squirrel Zonkers Streamers.
Bill
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February 25, 2018 at 4:05 pm #4572Tim McCoyParticipant
Thanks Mike. I figured the rabbit might mat when wet. I tried cutting a strip out of a red squirrel hide that I have, what a mess. I don’t like steering to far away from fly recipes. Nice to know Feather Craft has micro Pine Squirrel strips. They probably have ostrich also. I will drive to FC again tomorrow. Glad to have our FATC 10% discount.
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February 25, 2018 at 4:19 pm #4573MOfishMOParticipant
Bill, what is needed for the Mayer’s Mini Leech pattern is the Micro Pine Squirrel Zonker strips which are 1/16 inch wide. I believe the 3/32 mini strips will be to large for the Mayer’s pattern.
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February 25, 2018 at 6:39 pm #4574Tim McCoyParticipant
The Feather Craft catalog list two sizes of pine squirrel. The standard for hook size 10 and larger and the micro size 10 and smaller. I think Mike is correct we need the micro. I will take Mikes word 1/16″. I got this fly on the brain now. I would think it would be possible to add a red or orange bead to make an egg sucker out of it.
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February 26, 2018 at 3:20 am #4575bkbying89Participant
Thanks, fellas I guess I will have to make the drive to F-C again as well.
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February 26, 2018 at 7:06 pm #4583Kenny KlimesKeymaster
Here is an excerpt of a podcast with Landon Mayer on his Mayer’s Leech pattern:
What makes the Mini-Leech so special?
I asked Landon, aren’t most nymphs non-escaping? What makes the mini-leech special. Or rather, what makes a good non-escaping fly?Landon said sure, lots of nymphs are non-escaping, but most big trout won’t grab a pheasant tail nearly as often as they’ll jump on a leech. Size matters.
He believes there are three elements that make a good non-escaping meal for large trout: movement, abundance and size.
The best non-escaping prey are large enough to grab the attention of big trout and entice them to eat.
They also have motion that trout key on, but it’s a motion without enough propulsion to dart away when attacked. Mayer’s Mini-Leech fits the bill perfectly. It’s 1.5 inches long, it pulses and undulates in the water, but trout don’t have to run it down. Leeches can’t swim away quickly to avoid an attack (they probably aren’t even aware of an incoming trout). Trout know this, and trout target leeches.
Landon told me his local rivers are full of leeches. They’re common and plentiful. And that’s important. The best non-escaping food forms are found in the river all year long. With such abundance, trout are used to seeing them and are on the lookout.
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March 2, 2018 at 9:21 am #4618Tim McCoyParticipant
So, how do you fish this leech? Do you strip it, fish it on the swing, under an indicator, or tight line it?
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March 2, 2018 at 10:15 am #4619MOfishMOParticipant
Tim,
I have taken information from Landon Mayer’s book 101 Trout Tips on “Leech Lesson”. Here is what Landon sez:
The Mayer’s Mini leech is versatile; you can dead-drift it as a nymph, swing it as a nymph, trail it behind a larger streamer using strip retrieve, or even hang it below a hopper. It is also possible to match different colors to the swimming damelselflies as they snake their way to the bank. The constant pulsating and undulating action matched with the tapering profile of a leech will fool many trout. It is my go-to pattern for landing large trout in the tight quarters of undercut banks, around structure, and at the head of a drop- off or riffled run. Use this imitation when you are fishing around structure or in tight quarters and want to reduce the number of snags.I personally had success with this fly pattern using the technique of dead-drift as a single fly below a indicator. I recently caught a 18” brown with this technique, fishing it at the head of a drop-off. I hope this is helpful for you.
Mike- This reply was modified 6 years ago by MOfishMO.
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March 2, 2018 at 11:04 am #4621Tim McCoyParticipant
Thanks Mike. I guess we can call this the universal fly. It looks good in the fly tying vise. I have added a red or orange glass bead right behind the eye of the hook to make an egg sucking leech of it. Landon’s book, I think I have a copy of that laying under the bed. I gotta go fishing.
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